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The Nintendo Wii U Doom and Gloom Needs To Stop.

It all seems so familiar. Feels like yesterday, everyone, the major gaming media sites, bloggers, and even gamers were saying a certain console was doomed to fail, and the company that released that console wouldn't survive this generation.

Flash forward to 2013. That same company has sold over 70 million consoles, has an impressive number of high quality games, and have announced a next generation gaming console that may be released this year. Not bad for a company that was on the ropes right? If you haven't figured it out yet, I'm obviously talking about Sony and the PS3, but now I feel like that same doubt has shifted to another veteran gaming company. Nintendo.

On November 18, 2012, Nintendo released the Wii U in the U.S. with 2 versions available. The basic, and the premium models. The prices were $299 for the basic, and $349 for the premium. I guess since it didn't fly off the shelves like the Wii console, that it's game over for this company and console too, right?

But, this isn't Nintendo's first rodeo. Since 1985 with the NES, till now with the WiiU, Nintendo has taken risk that the other companies haven't. Do people seriously think that Nintendo has survived all these years on luck alone? No. It's because they push innovation and make games that people enjoy.

The Wii U may be off to a slow start, but what about that other console and company that I mentioned earlier? They are still alive and kicking today, like Nintendo will be years from now.

In my opinion, if it wasn't for Nintendo, companies like Sony and Microsoft wouldn't be as successful as they are today. Nintendo took the risk years ago, even when the gaming market crashed, and they're still taking those same risk today.

I have faith in Nintendo to do what they always have done. Continue to push gaming the only way they know how.

They are true pioneers, and took those risk to get us to where we are now. Let's give them the chance to do something that no one else has the gall to do again with the Wii U. All they need is what the other company got when it paid off for them.

Time.

zerocrossing4104d ago

People will never stop declaring "Nintendo is doomed" Nintendo after all, aren't trying to appeal to the same crowd as Sony and MS so that's apparently already reason enough to hate them for some people...

dedicatedtogamers4104d ago

Well, Ninteno WAS on the decline with the N64 and especially the Gamecube. They bounced back with the Wii and DS, but now Nintendo's console market AND - for the first time in their history - their handheld market are both struggling.

I'm not saying Nintendo really is doomed, but they are doing worse than they have in a long time.

zerocrossing4104d ago

Yeah that is true, I don't mind people mentioning that Nintendo aren't doing well and even more so if they truly aren't, but these doom articles and people commenting on them aren't concerned for Nintendo, they are just pointing and laughing because a company they dislike is doing poorly, it's pathetic, juvenile and it needs to stop.

OpenGL4104d ago

The 3DS has sold ~30 million units in roughly 2 years, I don't really think that counts as struggling.

Welshy4103d ago

@OpenGL

The PSP sold over 70 million yet people still label that a failure.

People apparently have different definitions of a failure, i base it on the fun factor and the game.

Although the Vita is having a bit of a rough time, i have no regrets whatsoever purchasing one at launch.

SilentNegotiator4104d ago (Edited 4104d ago )

Big sweeping generalities of negative articles ("People are calling it doomed and think Nintendo will end!") won't save the Wii U from a subpar showing, however.

Without numbers, I don't buy that Ps3/others can be compared to a system that's only selling ~130K in its 4th month. I keep hearing "This is just like Ps3!", but I never see numbers proving that the Ps3 ever did that poorly. By all means, prove me wrong.

EDIT:
IN FACT; Ps3's worst showing in a month ever was ~240K (granted VGChartz isn't the most accurate, it's numbers aren't going to be off by 110K, though).
http://www.vgchartz.com/too...

PS3's doom/negative claims are NOT exactly the same as Wii U doom/negative claims. Wii U is NOT playing out the same way at all.

HammadTheBeast4104d ago

There's different things for every console/platform.

Sony/Vita/PS3/PS4 - Doom and gloom a lot of the time.

Nintendo/Wii U - Ridicule and doom lots of the time.

Microsoft/Xbox 360/Kinect - Lol.

PC Gaming - This deserves it's ridicule/hate both ways. Console and PC gamers will always hate each other. I would like to point out though, PC gamers often throw in specs for gaming rigs that cost $2-4000, and only 2-3% of PC gamers have.

ZombieNinjaPanda4104d ago

"Often cost 2-4000 dollars"

You're joking, right? No wonder people think owning a gaming PC is so expensive. People such as yourself are throwing around false information constantly.

TruthbeTold4104d ago

Yeah, I put together my quad core with Radeon 6850 gpu with used parts and spent a little more than $300 on it.

You aren't spending extravagant amounts on a PC gaming rig unless you are buying top of the line or recently top of the line pieces, or unless you don't go shopping for deals. There always people looking to sell pieces they no longer plan to use since they have upgraded, or are about to upgrade.

That being said, I love my PSWii60, and my new Wii U (Very underrated imo). I'll also be getting a PS4, and perhaps a Next Box if they wow me a bit. I just love games damn it...

HammadTheBeast4104d ago

"PC gamers often throw in specs for gaming rigs that cost $2-4000, and only 2-3% of PC gamers have."

Quote me out of context thanks for that. When people are comparing the PS4 to $1000 graphics cards, they distort the image to their advantage. Also, it's true that the PS4 can pull off better graphics than a $500 PC, yet people overlook that, and compare it to other higher end pc's which is irrelevant.

ZombieNinjaPanda4104d ago

People don't compare the Ps4 to 1000 dollar graphics cards because barely anyone owns those. People compare it to 300 dollar cards, which it doesn't outperform it seems.

Not to mention this whole thing was started due to a certain sect of fanboy claiming to be equivalent to PCs. Because somehow you can be equivalent to a system that is constantly changing.

TongkatAli4104d ago

Nintendo made a profit. Sony is better thou, more power in their hardware with really good exclusives. Nintendo can go through a doomed "console" they are worth billion and have a HUGE software attach rate with their exclusives.

If Wii U were to be a fail. Okay it's one fail, then look how many Sega went through and then died : D

stephmhishot4104d ago

I think the main issue for Nintendo as compared to what Sony went through with the PS3 is that Nintendo is still heavily struggling with third party support. Correct me if I'm wrong, but even Madden 25 isn't going to be on the WiiU as of now and EA Sports is always willing to port Madden to anything. Despite losing third party exclusivity, Sony still at least had prevalent third party software on the PS3.

I don't dislike Nintendo in anyway, its always fun to play a Mario or DK game etc, but the question is if even those legendary games can sustain a console anymore. They finished in second by default to the PSX since the Saturn was a miserable failure, then finished third behind the PS2 and XBox. The motion control fad helped the Wii sell the most consoles thus far this generation, but when it comes to home consoles, it's not like Nintendo has been bulletproof since the SNES days.

Sleet4104d ago

I own a WiiU and I can totally understand where all these doom articles are coming from. I bought the console specifically for its first party games but after buying Nintendoland and Mario at launch there have been no new games for it, and no 1st party games even have release dates !

I wouldnt go as far as to say that the WiiU is doomed but it has certainly lost all its momentum.

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Summer Game Fest 2024 and games conference schedule: All conference dates, times and streams

A schedule for all of the currently announced game conferences in June 2024, including the Summer Game Fest 2024 date and times.

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Lightning777h ago

For the first time in a long time I have a hard time feeling excited for these events. Maybe it's because of all these massive lay offs and closures there hasn't exactly been good news since the start of the year.

Maybe come next week I'll get a little more excited but I dunno I just can't get too excited right now

thorstein5h ago

Maybe it will be an indie showcase.

Cacabunga36m ago

Cancelling e3 and introducing some ridiculous events..
Times have changed.. to the worse

isarai2h ago

Is it just me or is there little to no buzz or marketing leading up to this compared to previous SGF?

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10 Rarest PS3 Games Worth an Arm and a Leg

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Burrito26a4h ago

Aquanauts Holiday at $500. Nice

jznrpg2h ago

I don’t collect games for their value I collect games I enjoyed playing. Many games I own are worth a lot of money but they must be games I want to play for me to purposely collect them. Most of this list isn’t games I would enjoy. I may have some of these games because I bought my friends PS2/3 Collection years ago and I never actually looked what was in it. It was a couple hundred games though still sitting in a box and I’m sure there are some good valuable games. I should go sift through it sometime.

Profchaos45m ago

I tend to agree for the most part rarity is linked to price
It's unusual that a rare game was popular with a few notable exceptions. Games released at the tail end of a consoles lifecycle which became popular years or decades later like little Samson on the NES or earthbound on SNES.
Or games that were banned after release in certain regions

Looking at this list there's nothing I'd be trying to collect either most of these games were fairly unpopular and bashed on their release leading to the scarcity seen now.
Especially NBA elite which I remember actually watching the news about how it got cancelled but had already shipped to retail it was so bad .

P_Bomb1h ago

I still have Afrika. Who knew it’d be worth something?

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[Exclusive] Xbox Reaches Agreement With Batman: Arkham Trilogy Creators For A New AAA Game

Ex-Rocksteady directors' Hundred Star is collaborating with Xbox Game Studios Publishing for its first-ever AAA game.

Lightning777h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Highly doubt it'll be an actual Batman game that IP belongs to WB Games along with other DC property.

They're making an action adventure game. IMO I think it needs to be another Marvel game despite MS already have Blade as that action Marvel game. Dead Pool? Punisher?

Realistically it'll probably be a new IP entirely.

The_Hooligan6h ago

I agree with you. I think I'll be a brand new IP. Now it could be a superhero themed, kind of like infamous. Speaking of which, Suckerpunch needs to make one after Ghost 2.

neutralgamer19926h ago

would love a infamous collection for ps5/pc

Lightning775h ago

I definitely think it'll be super hero themed game 100%. Something MS needs in their portfolio.

ThinkThink3h ago

Please, no more super hero games.

PhillyDonJawn3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Dead Pool or Punisher would be amazing!!!
Don't tease me like that man lol. I see them making a new IP that's like an arkham knight clone

MIDGETonSTILTS176h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I hope these devs needed support to start/finish (like Stalker 2), vs are basically done with the game but wanted to secure an exclusivity-bonus because they know Xbox needs a system seller (like Titanfall).

It’s a bit strange that they’d rather invest in this game than Tangoworks’ TWO canceled projects; or just trust a single dev from their existing massive stable of talent to emerge with a system-seller themselves anytime soon.

Either way, it is just cool that we’ll likely get a new IP from the geniuses behind the Arkham Trilogy. I wonder how creative they’ll get now that they aren’t married to an established franchise.

darthv726h ago

This is about the former co-founders of Rocksteady and their new studio. So naturally it makes people think its Batman related with the way its worded, even though its not.

-Foxtrot5h ago

Exclusive? Sure

This year alone Microsoft has changed their plans so much with Xbox regarding multiplatform releases as they step closer to just being a full blown third party publisher and it's only been 4-5 months, imagine where we'll be once this game is finished. It will be a completely different landscape.

ThinkThink3h ago

I don't think MS will ever go completely full 3rd party with all of their games. I can see them looking towards expanding their own mobile store and moving into Mac as ways of expanding. I'm sure ms will bring more exclusives over to ps and nintendo, but I don't think it'll be as many games as you think it will. I hope I'm wrong.

Lightning773h ago

The ever contradictions thoughts and actions of MS definitely says otherwise MS changed up so much on the past 6 months of the year I lost count.

Though I'm more declined to believe they also won't go full 3rd party also.

But.

This year they're having Renaissance a super bowl of gaming with Gamepass this year. BO6, older ABK games, Avowed, Indy and other 3rd party exclusives all to grow and expand gamepass. If these games don't grow the service or grow only a little bit. Then you can fully expect MS to hit the red button and put everything everywhere. Satya will have full Xbox take over doing what he wants from that point on next year.

It's up to Xbox to advertise these games and gamepass in the next 6 months or so get the word out.

Profchaos2h ago

The more the news evolves the more I'm inclined to believe we will see MS embrace full third party status but not call it third party in their word soup ways.

It will be Xbox everywhere plays best on a Xbox.

Next gen Xbox is rumoured to be a reference design similar to the 3d0 where any company can make and sell it.

If you're offloading hardware costs to a third party yet still profiting from the games then you've cut out losses on the hardware you still have a store front that users can use and still make a 30 percent cut on that.

Your games sell for a profit on PS and Nintendo platforms and on Xbox reference hardware along with PC

You lose .kney on DLC and games sold on a competitor storefront they are seemingly already comfortable with this.

The ms bean counters are coming for the ROI that was promised they don't care if they kill the brand as it stands Xbox was never a profitable business it was always just done for reputation

PhillyDonJawn2h ago

@Lightning the would end the console then. No one would buy Xbox over PS at that point cause now you get both with just a PS. If GP flop for them, Logically, rolling back on GP would be the smarter than to do. No more day 1 title. Less quality titles. They'd lose subs but people would go back to buying the games.

Lightning7743m ago

@Philly They could scale back gamepass put Indies only, AAA 1st party games coming 4 to 6 months from release. The thing is MS will have to tell their fans to buy their games again and that's gonna take years and years to condition them to buy games again. MS will lose money from that also. They'll lose out on gamepass revenue, lose out on games sales because their fans don't buy as many games anymore.

I can't see them scaling back or axing gamepass it does make them allot of money, they just want more money from it. They're not gonna condition their fans to start buying games either.

As I said they'll go full 3rd party and yes you ate right, if they do that then there would be no reason to buy the next Xbox. I know j won't be, you better hope the next 6 months they advertise the games and GP there little hearts out because this could be it.

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purple1014h ago

Spawn (as well as master chief) are the only characters I associate with Xbox. Are there more I can’t remember?

rlow14h ago

Gears is another big game one.

purple1014h ago

Yeh big game, do you know the name of the lead character. Or team of lead characters. I don’t

rlow14h ago

Marcus, Dom, Cole Train. And I can’t remember the fourth.

Profchaos2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Also the chick from gears 5 seems to pop up on all their modern advertising I can't remember her name either.

Cars also feature heavily in a Xbox ad it's always master chief front and centre with cars and maybe a gears character hanging around

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